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March 5: Penn Jillette

Penn Jillette (1955)

Penn Jillette

It was on this date, March 5, 1955, that magician and author Penn Jillette, the speaking half of the comedy/magic team Penn & Teller, was born Penn Fraser Jillette in Greenfield, Massachusetts. In 1975 he found his partner, Teller (Raymond Joseph Teller), who is 5’9″ (175 cm), compared to Jillette’s 6’6″ (182 cm) frame. The Penn & Teller “arranged marriage,” as they call it, has them performing regularly “an edgy mix of comedy and magic involving knives, guns, fire, a gorilla and a showgirl” at the Rio All-Suite Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas and appearing on the Showtime cable series “Penn & Teller: Bullshit!” exposing frauds and fakes such as talking to the dead, alternative medicine, creationism, alien abductions and ESP. They also write books: Cruel Tricks for Dear Friends (1989) and How to Play with Your Food (1992), and Jillette’s first novel, Sock (2004).

Both Penn and Teller are outspoken Atheists and skeptics. They even use it as part of their act. On this, Jillette remarks, “We lose a couple a night from the blasphemy. I never comment, people don’t even notice. No one cares. Good riddance to bad xtians [sic], I say.”[1] Indeed, in interview after interview, Jillette is unwavering and solidly scientific about his freethinking. In a 1999 interview for The Onion, Penn wryly remarked:

… being pro-science is one of the oddest things you can do in show business. … Oh, Western medicine doesn’t work; I’m sorry, we cured polio. What more do you want? Your herbalism has done jack; we cured polio. And guess what? It cures polio even if you don’t believe in it. We don’t have it on Earth anymore. And then there’s also smallpox … But we [Penn & Teller] are pro-science, and when you’re pro-science, that means you’re an atheist, by definition, because religion… No matter how much they put “10 Top Scientists Talk About Why They Believe In God” on the cover of TIME magazine, you kind of have to look and go, “How come these 10 top scientists are all teaching at community colleges?”[2]

In another interview, Jillette was asked if his Atheism turned people off:

I suppose so, although the U.S. was built on the marketplace of ideas. … I am an atheist, a very strong atheist, and yet I will go hear Garth Brooks even though he is Christian. I do see art by people with different political beliefs, and I do read books by people with different theological and political beliefs. I don’t see hardcore hateful propaganda like The Passion of the Christ, but something that is thought out and not people-hating, I will go check out. I don’t think the American ideal is a kind of safe, white bread mediocrity. You are supposed to hear from people you disagree with. That is the way we grow and get better.[3]

Asked why he thinks The Passion of the Christ is “hardcore hateful propaganda,” Jillette replied:

Mel Gibson has some very serious problems. … The celebration of torture, the idea that killing a guy absolves us of our sins, is the weirdest kind of voodoo possible. … It is so sad because 9/11 was a faith-based initiative, it was some very, very religious men who did a horrible thing. To battle that with more faith is really insane. They say the movie is anti-Semitic, that’s because the book it is based on is anti-Semitic.[4]

In discussing his novel, Sock, with Reason magazine, Jillette remarked:

People who know about Penn & Teller know that I’m an atheist. Because of that, I find myself getting into these discussions at two o’clock in the morning in a diner, people asking the usual questions about atheists: “How can you be moral? Don’t you wish there were a god?” Then, at some point, they’ll ask, “How do you feel with the death of a loved one?” As I wrote Sock, it turned out that I was writing an answer to that question. How does an atheist deal with really deep grief?

When you boil it down, I think it becomes a cliché. But the book is about how love and memory and humanity are really what we have to hold on to. More important, that’s kind of enough.

People have to realize that having an imaginary friend may be dangerous. When 9/11 hit, the second thing I said to myself was, “This really is what religious people do.” Those people flying the plane were very good, very pious, truly faithful believers. There’s no other way to paint them. Of course, they are extremists by definition, but they certainly aren’t going against Islam in any real way.[5]

Jillette spoke about faith and Jesus in a 2004 interview:

People tend to use the word faith as if it’s a good thing and it often is. … [But if] you’re talking about it in terms of Allah taking care of me in the next life for being a martyr and, therefore, I will fly the planes into the Twin Towers, I don’t know how you can justify that as a good thing.

There is no difference between Mel Gibson’s faith and the terrorist’s faith. We have no evidence that there was a historic Jesus, we have no evidence that he died for our sins. We have no evidence, that we can agree on, for any of that. If you look at the distribution of religion, it tends to be geographical and not intellectual, which is a another discussion.[6]

Finally, Jillette explained the difference between faith and freethought:

As a skeptic, we’re not saying, “this is the way it is;” we’re saying, “this is the evidence that we have right now.” I will promise you that when evidence comes in differently I’m the first one to change. If you show me evidence of a God, I’m not an atheist. Atheism only means that I don’t believe in God. I don’t believe a God is impossible, I just don’t think there is evidence of one.[7]

[1] “Penn & Teller” (Penn Jillette) Washington Post LiveOnline, Thursday, Jan. 31, 2001, 1 p.m. EST. [2] The Onion (online), 1999?, quoted from the Celebrity Atheist List (Web site). [3] “Penn Jillette… Telling It Like It Is, With Teller” (c 2000, by Staff), AskMen.com. [4] Ibid. [5] “Love and Memory and Humanity: Magician and novelist Penn Jillette on censorship, sock monkeys, and Bullshit!” December 2004, by Nick Gillespie, Reason.com. [6] “Penn Jillette – Magician/Television,” by Dominick A. Miserandino, March 2004, The Celebrity Café.com. [7] Ibid.

Originally published March 2004 by Ronald Bruce Meyer.

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Ronald Bruce Meyer

Freethought Almanac was created by Ronald Bruce Meyer, in collaboration with freethoughtradio.com, in March 2003. What started with a brief notice on the birthday of Albert Einstein, grew into almost 250,000 words on not only biography but history, philosophy, theology and politics — one day at a time. Freethought Almanac looks at these daily subjects from a godless point of view, that is, a point of view that is based not on fantasies, delusions or wishful thinking, but a view that is evidence-based.

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